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    jvirginia is offline INCIIDer - A Community Creator
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    My cleaning lady's teenage daughter is pg. My cleaning lady was pg as a teenager; all of her daughter's friends are starting to get pg. It is so depressing.

    Anyway, I am not a breastfeeding fanatic but they have very little money and I was saying that breastfeeding does save a lot of money. My cleaning lady said her daughter is very self-conscious about her boobs and that they can get a shot to dry up the milk once the baby is born and get formula coupons through WIC. This really bothers me. I'm an avowed lefty, but making it that easy to give up on breastfeeding disturbs me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jvirginia View Post
    My cleaning lady's teenage daughter is pg. My cleaning lady was pg as a teenager; all of her daughter's friends are starting to get pg. It is so depressing.

    Anyway, I am not a breastfeeding fanatic but they have very little money and I was saying that breastfeeding does save a lot of money. My cleaning lady said her daughter is very self-conscious about her boobs and that they can get a shot to dry up the milk once the baby is born and get formula coupons through WIC. This really bothers me. I'm an avowed lefty, but making it that easy to give up on breastfeeding disturbs me.
    HUh? It's a choice. Many mothers decide not to breast feed for whatever reason, their decision. Do you think WIC should make mothers attempt breast feeding before providing Wic checks for formula? Get a sign off from a La Leche lady they failed?

    Wic is one of the few social programs that doesn't bother me much.

    Besides, I'm not shocked a girl that gets pg as a teen would be all into breast feeding. But someone should clue her in to the fact that it is *pregnancy* that damages the tata's the most, not nursing.

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    At least in my area, WIC will provide a very nice double electric breast pump if the client is interested in breast-feeding. I also used to work for an organization that worked with a lot of teen moms. When we were talking with them we would try to discuss breastfeeding and all the benefits. The majority of the girls still chose formula, but our rate was higher than the average for breastfeeding. It was great to have some come back and say rather shyly, how much they loved nursing their child. We weren't pushy about it, but we just tried to educate and let them make an informed choice and offer support.

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    I agree with you 100% (I am a BFing fanatic - just for my family personally, not to push on others). It is depressing that it is made that easy to quit. Now I'll have to look it up if I have time, but I think they just revised the WIC guidelines - I think they are decreasing the formula allotment after the baby turns six months? This may be in an effort to increase more *healthy* table food as baby approaches one year.

    Kari - your former organization's work sounds wonderful. When we lived in Chicago I attended a workshop and the chief presenter was an advanced practice nurse at Rush-Pres-St Lukes. She was in charge of this large program (and research study) that began in the NICU and post-partum units and provided breastpumps and intensive nursing mentorship to low-income, often teenage moms. The results of her work were amazing - as evidenced by how long these moms nursed, how devoted they became to nursing their babes and how they very, very slowly began to change some attitudes toward nursing within their families and circles of friends.

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    In NY, WIC employs lactation specialist and will provide good pumps. I think this is the right thing to do. I bf'ed not only because I thought it was better for my DD but because I am a cheapskate.

    As for the cleaning lady and her daughter, they have absolutely no idea how ridiculous it is to be self-conscious about one's breasts and yet be entering into teen motherhood. Her breasts are the least of her concerns. They, like other people who are within the public assistance, also have no real idea how the rest of us survive. IMO, it is a big problem with public assistance. The people who receive it assume that everyone gets public assistance.

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    Well, if you were to tell me that she wanted a shot to dry up the milk so she can get her butt back to high school, I would buy into it, but because she's self-conscious about her boobs, that's another story. Sadly, it is unlikely you will be able to persuade her, unless you tell her the wic $ could buy good stretch mark cream for her sagging boobs.

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    Default Actually, it looks like it is encouraged...

    and even rewarded with longer assistance and enhanced food packages if you breastfeed your baby.

    From WIC's website:

    Breastfeeding Promotion and Support in WIC

    Research has shown that there is no better food than breast milk for a baby’s first year of life. Breastfeeding provides many health, nutritional, economical and emotional benefits to mother and baby. Since a major goal of the WIC Program is to improve the nutritional status of infants, WIC mothers are encouraged to breastfeed their infants. WIC has historically promoted breastfeeding to all pregnant women as the optimal infant feeding choice, unless medically contraindicated.

    WIC mothers choosing to breastfeed are provided information through counseling and breastfeeding educational materials.
    Breastfeeding mothers receive follow-up support through peer counselors.
    Breastfeeding mothers are eligible to participate in WIC longer than non-breastfeeding mothers.
    Mothers who exclusively breastfeed their infants receive an enhanced food package.
    Breastfeeding mothers can receive breast pumps, breast shells or nursing supplementers to help support the initiation and continuation of breastfeeding.


    The sense of entitlement that I see running rampant in our assistance programs is what gets me. It's no longer a program to use if absolutely necessary. Now it's just there to take advantage of, whether it's needed or not. And don't get me started if this shot this girl is taking to dry up her milk and 'protect' her boobs is covered by our tax dollars.

    I'm glad they are encouraging breastfeeding through WIC. I was a teen mom at 18 and with the encouragement and support of my godmother (a La Leche League supporter) my ds nursed for 18 months and never had formula. And I never took advantage of 'the system'. Of course, my mom became a divorced mom of two when I was a kid and I remember hearing as a teen how good she felt that she raised 2 kids and never had to rely on welfare to get by. She was able to work hard and get us through. Unfortunately, that work ethic is rare in our society today.

    I'm with Jen - aside from the nutritional benefits, the expense and time involved in making bottles should discourage any mom from giving up on breastfeeding so readily.

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